First of all I'm delighted I came across this Forum. After reading through most threads everybody seems to be well versed in the area of NAD boosters.
So on to my story, as my first NAD boosterexperience went very bad. i'M a 48 year old male with young kids . Have always suffered with Anxiety but recently especially in Full lockdown it had become extreme. btw I'm in Ireland. Anyway , I'm one of these individuals who refuses to do full anti depressants (maybe an occasional half xanax). Also, I've always being interested in supplementation as a different approach. As my anxiety was increasing in lockdown so was my chronic fatigue. I'm normally active, but in Ireland we've pretty much been isolated in our houses for 6 months. To cut a long story short I came across David Sinclair and after more research I landed here. NAD supplementation looked like a good option for me to managed my chronic fatigue. At first I was unsure whether to order NMN ,NR or NAD+? i said feck it I will order all 3 and figure out which is best.
On Friday my NR arrived - I ordered it from a reputable uk supplier(FEELSUPREME) and it also contained ASTAXANTHIN.
ASTAXANTHIN is powerful anti oxident, but I think has weird side effects. Anyway, the NR arrived first(friday) and my NMN and NAD is due to arrive today (so NR 3 days earlier). BTW I've ordered the NAD and NR from a different supplier. So on Friday I took one 250 pill of THE NR in the morning at 10 am . Approx 80 mins lately I had surge of energy like coffee without the jitters. I ended up bringing my 3 year old to the park and we ran around for about 45 mins. After this I just felt nice and calm. Everything was sharper,more vivid and intense. It was quite jarring tbh. So at 5pm I took another 250 m pill . It said to take 2 a day on the bottle. However, I only game my Mrs just one, i took 500mg that day. the next morning i woke up fresh a daisy jumped out of bed and proceeded to have a great day with the kids and mrs. I said to myself i'm cured! this is a wonder supplement.
This all changed yesterday morning when I took 250 mg at 10am (id been take 2 x 250mg daily since friday). I started to feel incredibly agitated and a massive alertness and energy buzz. told the mrs i need to go for a run , besides i needed to get out of the house as was agitated. Went for a 45min run and came back. However, the massive energy spike and agitation increased 10 fold. Very scary and next minute I'm having a panic attack. i knew what it was but couldn't control the spike. Had to take a half xanax to calm me down. Also, myself and the wife over the course of the few days suffered from extreme IBS and wind. I figured this was the ASTAxANTHIN. The NR experiment was a disaster for me, but maybe i was taking too much at 500mg. My wife was ok bar the IBS at 250mg but even at that she said this side effect was too much. Anyway i'm now afraid to do the NR in the fridge and my NAD+ and NMN is arriving today.
I don't want to quit after one attempt as think maybe NR too extreme or even the dose. Can somebody please tell me how to approach?. Did I take too much NR and it elevated my anxiety, Would i be better off trying NAD +. Is NAD more calming and mental. Would I be ok on a very small amount of NMW (150MG) +NAD. This stuff was great up until yesterday, but it got so extreme it felt like i was on some form of narcotic or after drinking 50 cups of coffee. i don't want to give up here and have spent a lot of money.
Any advise would be helpful. Again my NR and NMN is arriving today and it's legit. Bio Life Science. I just don't want to have the extreme burst of energy . would prefare some nice clean energy and clarity. Any any advise would be helpful.
excuse typos and errors I'm still a bit uneasy after yesterday bad NR experience
Dosage is always a consideration and with NAD+ boosters it's a very individual thing. Start with 250mg/day and work your way up slowly, looking for any problems like too much energy or insomnia. If that happens back off to a lower dose. Actually, I've not heard anyone complain of too much energy before, so something's wrong there. It shouldn't cause anxiety. As I said, make sure the company is reputable and the product is independently tested for purity. Keep us up to date with how you're doing.
if I order I hope it doesn’t get stuck in customs again ?
Tony, we've tested competitor's products for purity and in one case, it had ZERO NMN! I wouldn't be surprised to learn they substituted caffeine or other cheap powder for NMN in your case.tonydunne408 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 11:58 amThanks in hindsight I think the product as you said could have had something else in it ? Caffeine maybe? I also took quercetin that day so could have intensified everything . Looks like my nmn and nad is stuck in customs at FedEx (restricted item?). I might have to bite the bullet and order from ALivebyscience . Can u tell me what’s the basic difference between nad+ and your nmn product ? I will probably buy both .is nad milder and more mental ? I don’t want the panic attacks back . Also , would it be beneficial to supplement with tmg(for dopamine).
if I order I hope it doesn’t get stuck in customs again ?
NMN is a precursor to NAD+, meaning that it will turn into NMN when it arrives at the tissues. NAD+ crosses the blood/brain barrier easier, so would be recommended for restoring NAD+ levels in the brain. NMN is a really good all purpose NAD+ booster. You should never get panic attacks or feel stressed.
Yes, it's recommended you take TMG in equal milligrams to what you're taking in NAD+ boosters.
You have certainly been through “ the Mill” with your buying and taking alternative brand products.
My personal advice is to stick to AliveByScience products as they are independently tested and the company will always help customers whenever it can.
You also have to tread carefully with your already high anxiety and panic levels.
Most of us on the forum have tried the ABS NAD+ Nasal Spray and as you say, it is a great product but I think you have fallen for the old trick of “too much too early”
Give your body time to adjust by taking the minimum amount of ABS product for two weeks and then report back on the forum with your experience. We will all help new forum members whenever we can. Good luck on your ABS journey..
Sorry you've had some bad experiences with the stuff you got from the other suppliers. Totally agree with everyone, especially with what jocko6889 has noted -- sometimes you just don't know what the companies are putting in their supplements, so it's so important to go with a trusted supplier.
I can attest that our household uses only ABS NMN products, and we've had no issues. Definitely give ABS NMN a try, and also start with the lower dosage and see how you go with that. I reckon also monitor your sleep and nutrition to help complement the benefits of NMN.
Stay safe, good luck and keep us posted!