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Exactly Where is Sinclair on Rolling Back Age?

Post by jocko6889 » Sat Sep 14, 2019 5:58 pm

Just finished reading Sinclair's new book and one of the most stunning revelations to me is that Sinclair has developed a method to reverse age, closing in on the proverbial fountain of youth. His lab has already proven this new method works in areas such as the optic nerve to restore vision in mice. More work is being done to prove this method can also work in other areas of the body as well.

To understand the process Sinclair has developed, you have to go back to a discovery made by a Japanese researcher named Shinya Yamanaka, who in 2012 won the nobel prize for his discovery of how to transform ordinary adult skin cells into stem cells, cells that are capable of developing into any cell in the human body. Yamanaka accomplished this by adding just four genes into the adult skin cells of mice.

Flash forward to this year, where Sinclair discovered that by eliminating just one of these Yamanaka genes, you could control a slow roll back in the age of a cell - not all the way back to a stem cell but to a much younger version of the same cell. The question is how would the cell know what younger version to become? How would it know what methylation to discard from the epigenome and which to keep in order to become young again?

We all know that DNA contains all our genes, but which genes are turned on or off is controlled by the epigenome. Using methyl markers on DNA, genes are either turned on or off so that the right combination can form various cells such as liver, brain, or any other cell in the body. But over time, extraneous methylation on the DNA occurs from smoking, too much sun, poor diet, lack of exercise, or any other number of factors until the DNA becomes hard to read, like scratches on a CD. So how can we ever hope to become young again if the CD is so scratched that we have lost much of the original information from our youth?

In what is probably the most stunning revelation in his new book, Sinclair believes that the body has actually made a backup copy of the epigenome from a very young age, perhaps even when we were still in the womb. Sinclair doesn't yet know where on the DNA this backup copy resides but it is probably made up of markers using methylation, a protein, an RNA, or even a novel chemical attached to DNA that we haven’t yet discovered. However Sinclair is virtually certain this backup copy exists because without it the cell wouldn't have any idea what version of itself to turn into in order to become young again, no blueprint.

Sinclair's method involved inserting the Yamanaka genes (minus one) into an empty virus shell and then injecting them into the optic nerves of older mice with cloudy vision, blind mice, and younger mice that have had their optic nerves crushed. Optic nerves were chosen because they are the most difficult to improve and results are easier to isolate. The injected genes then somehow communicate with the ancient backup copy of the epigenome to slowly roll back the extraneous methylation (scratches) that have clouded the DNA and return the epigenome to a younger version, restoring vision. Once the virus has been injected into the mice the Yamanaka factors are turned on by injecting mice with an antibiotic called doxycycline. The cellular rollback in time begins and can be stopped at any point by simply discontinuing doxycycline injections, say when the cells reach the equivalent human age of 21.

As we learn how to manipulate the factors that reset our cells, we may one day be able to move away from using viruses to inject Yamanaka factors to simply taking a month’s course of pills. We may also develop a way to treat the entire human body instead of one organ at a time. In any case, the roadmap towards a fountain of youth is starting to shape up and it may be years rather than decades before we begin to see the benefits.


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Post by nettlesbe » Sat Sep 14, 2019 7:52 pm

It is amazing.

Reading the book gave me some background I didn't have before that makes it more believable.

I used to think Dr Sinclair kind of "lucked" into his role with Resveratrol, somewhat like Dr Brenner did in discovering NR pathway to NAD+.

But he actually had a major Eureka breakthrough at Dr Guarantes lab in late 90's where he first postulated his information theory of aging that is behind his "scratched CD" analogy, and also showed it was excessive burden on sirtuins due to DNA repair playing a key role in aging way back then.

So it wasn't just Resveratrol, and leveraging the fame from that to take the lead on NAD, then having the platform to get people to pay attention to his theory. He had these theories for decades and has been discovering things that support his theories.
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Post by canadahealthy » Sun Sep 15, 2019 1:40 pm

So as exciting as NMN is, Dr. Sinclair could still turn into a mad scientist, and then we all will need to be reassured that it wasn't the NMN. :mrgreen:
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Post by drkris69 » Sun Sep 15, 2019 2:45 pm

Great post Jocko, I need to get Doc's new book. Will check it out.
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Post by Drdavid » Sun Sep 15, 2019 10:01 pm

Jocko, very interesting post and a glimpse at what will come in the future. Dr. Chopra has talked about this isolated copy for over a decade. It makes sense our bodies regrow organs all the time and as long as the program has not been corrupted with some disease the copy is usually as good as the original. Where the two concepts diverge is that Dr. Chopra believes that the mind has a key to the genetic copy and can activate this copy at will. Over the next few years we will begin to see that there is a link to mind, body and soul.
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Post by AlbertY » Sun Sep 15, 2019 10:43 pm

I agree. OSK reprogramming is probably the most exciting breakthrough in the field of aging up to now. But they haven't observed the lifespan extension yet. Next step would be doing reprogramming on an accelerated-aging mouse model, the ICE mouse, to see how reprogramming can extend their lifespan. Can't wait to see these results!
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Post by Longevity36 » Mon Sep 16, 2019 9:43 pm

I ordered the book. But I was out of state when it arrived. I can’t wait to get back home and read it. I feel like all this NMN and resveratrol is becoming not that important . It’s almost as if SINCLAIR’s hinting at another way to stay young. He mentions sunblock in a podcast as one means, Less eating in another . Admits resveratrol won’t add any years , but will help you into old age w less of the common problems plaguing older humans. There’s so much they’re not saying. I need answers.
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Post by Longevity36 » Mon Sep 16, 2019 9:52 pm

& how would doxycycline do that? It’s for preventing life ( mainly bacteria ) from cultivating. How would it encourage an optic nerve to grow? That’s insane.
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Post by OzSport » Mon Sep 16, 2019 10:57 pm

Cool summary, Jocko, really fascinating stuff Dr. Sinclair is researching! I'm still waiting for my copy to arrive, argh!
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Post by Deleted User 15772 » Mon Sep 16, 2019 11:06 pm

Longevity36 wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2019 9:52 pm
& how would doxycycline do that? It’s for preventing life ( mainly bacteria ) from cultivating. How would it encourage an optic nerve to grow? That’s insane.
The doxycycline is only used as a trigger for the virally inserted genes. It’s not being used for it’s antibiotic properties, but instead because it’s a safe and specific chemical that they are able to use (in ways that don’t entirely understand) as a sort of key to activate the inserted (and “locked”) genes.

There are other chemicals that can be used as a key/lock system, they just happened to choose doxycycline for this experiment.

The idea is: if the genes are left on for too long, cells might get de-methylated all the way back to pluripotent stem cells and now you’re just a bag of undifferentiated cells and nobody wants to turn back into an embryo. But a few days activating the genes with the doxycycline trigger is just enough to rewind the cells back to youthful levels.
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